66. Nolan Smith, Duke, 2008-2011

2003 Top 50 List: Not eligible

Dan Collins List: Yes

Nolan Smith won the ACC Triple Crown in 2011.  He was ACC Player of the Year, ACC Tournament MOP, and first team Consensus All-American.  I know you’re wondering who else has done that:

  • 1957, Lennie Rosenbluth
  • 1962, Len Chappell
  • 1963, Art Heyman
  • 1968, Larry Miller
  • 1992, Christian Laettner
  • 1996, Tim Duncan
  • 1998, Antawn Jamison
  • 1999, Elton Brand
  • 2001, Shane Battier
  • 2005, JJ Redick
  • 2006, JJ Redick
  • 2008, Tyler Hansbrough
  • 2019, Zion Williamson

In other words, Nolan Smith and a bunch of guys who were better than he was.  But still, he’s a legitimate member of that group, and any time you’re on a list with those guys, you’re doing something right.  Smith’s 2011 season is the ACC’s only 20+ point, 5+ assist season in the past 20 years (since Jason Williams in 2002).

He was really good on the 2010 national championship team, too.  Scheyer and Singler got a little more press, but Smith was really an equal partner in that triumvirate that led the Blue Devils to the national title.  He was named Most Outstanding Player of the South Region.

It looked like they had a great shot to repeat in 2011.  They were ranked #1 most of the year and won the ACC Tournament.  But they got shipped out West and ended up losing to Arizona in the Sweet 16.  In case you forgot, that was the Kyrie Irving year.  Irving hurt his foot in the eighth game of the season and didn’t play again until the NCAA Tournament.  You wonder if the season would have turned out differently had Irving been healthy the whole year.  He was great when he played.

Smith is in some ways similar to Chris Carrawell, a Duke guard who really stepped forward as a senior to win ACC Player of the Year.  But Smith was better.  His great year was better than Carrawell’s great year, and Smith was a major contributor to a national championship team.

67. Bob Lewis, UNC, 1965-1967

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

Bob Lewis was Dean Smith’s first big recruit.  A year later, Smith added Larry Miller, and the Tar Heels had something.

Lewis had a whale of a year as a junior in 1966.  He led the league in scoring at 27 points per game and shot 53% from the floor.  He was the leading vote-getter in All-ACC balloting, although he finished behind Steve Vacendak and Jack Marin in Player of the Year voting (I’ll have more to say about that strange POY vote in a later post).  Lewis made third team AP All-American, which sells him a bit short based on the year he had.  Under different circumstances, Lewis could have been ACC POY and at least second team All-America with the year he had.

If you think about it, at that time, Duke was really the ACC’s media darling.  They had had an incredible run, winning the regular season title the previous four seasons, three ACC tournaments, a few Final Fours.  North Carolina hadn’t done much under Dean Smith up to that point.  So as strange as it sounds to our ears for a UNC player, I think Lewis flew under the radar a bit, and Duke’s players – Vacendak, Marin, and Bob Verga – got more attention.

As a senior, his numbers slipped, but he was still named first team All-ACC.  Behind Lewis and Miller, the 1967 Tar Heels won the ACC Tournament for the first time since 1957 and made the first of many Final Fours under Dean Smith.  That 1967 season was a real changing of the guard in the ACC.  The Tar Heels slayed the dragon that was Vic Bubas and Duke, who didn’t win another ACC title until 1978.  For the next few years, it was Dean Smith’s Tar Heels who dominated the league.

Lewis still holds a couple of school records at Carolina – most points in a game, 49 against Florida State in 1965 (see quote below), and most consecutive free throws made, 39.  He is 14th all-time in career scoring average in the ACC.  His scoring average of 27.4 in 1966 is the tenth highest scoring average for a season in league history. 

J.K. (Bud) Kennedy has been head basketball coach at Florida State for 17 years and over that time he has seen some ballplayers come and go. Last night he stood with his feet in the middle of a pile of towels, scratched his head and looked at his team as it listlessly dressed following a 115-80 loss to UNC. “I thought I’d seen the best of them,” he said, “but this kid is the best shot I’ve ever seen… we tried to play him loose and we tried to play him tight. He shot over the loose ones, drove past the tight ones. We played him perfect several times, and he made the shot anyway.” – Bill Ballenger, Charlotte News, Dec. 17, 1965

68. Skip Brown, Wake Forest, 1974-1977

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

In 1972, Carl Tacy took over a Wake Forest program that was coming off a dismal 8-18 season and really hadn’t done much since the days of Bones McKinney.  He had a talented player in Tony Byers, but not much else.  The first thing he did to get the program headed in the right direction was the recruitment of Skip Brown.  Brown and fellow freshman Jerry Schellenberg made an immediate impact in 1974.  Wake was pretty good, but you couldn’t tell by their record in the brutal ACC.  They went 0-8 against NC State, UNC, and Maryland, 13-5 against everybody else. The next season, Brown took a major step forward, making first team All-ACC and finishing second to David Thompson in scoring.  Byers was gone, but Tacy added Rod Griffin.  The record was more of the same – 1-7 against NC State, UNC, and Maryland, 12-6 against everybody else.  But the foundation had been laid.

An interesting side note on Brown’s 1975 season. He averaged 22.7 points and 6.8 assists. I mean, that’s a lot, isn’t it? According to sports-reference.com, there have been only 20 seasons of 22+ points and 6+ assists per game in all of college basketball in the past 30 years (as far back as their data set goes). Many of them are players from low-major schools, but there are some you’ve heard of:

  • 1993, Penny Hardaway, Memphis, 22.8/6.4
  • 1994, B.J. Tyler, Texas, 22.8/6.3
  • 1995, Damon Stoudamire, Arizona, 22.8/7.3
  • 1997, Antonio Daniels, Bowling Green, 24.0/6.8
  • 2000, Speedy Claxton, Hofstra, 22.8/6.0
  • 2005, J.J. Barea, Northeastern, 22.2/7.3
  • 2009, Eric Maynor, VCU, 22.4/6.2
  • 2018, Trae Young, Oklahoma, 27.4/8.7
  • 2019, Ja Morant, Murray State, 24.5/10.0

In 1976, Wake put everyone on notice by beating both State and Carolina in the Big Four Tournament in early January.  They went on to go 17-10.  Brown’s numbers dipped just a little bit as Griffin and Schellenberg took more of the offensive load, but he still averaged 21 points and 5 assists.

In 1977, things finally came together as the Deacs went 22-8 (8-4).  They won the Big Four Tournament again and were ranked in the Top 10 most of the season before a late season slide.  They earned an at-large bid to the NCAA Tournament, where they knocked off Sidney Moncrief and Arkansas on their way to the Sweet 16, where they lost to eventual champion Marquette.  Brown was again first team All-ACC, while Rod Griffin was player of the year over Phil Ford.

Statistically, Mark Price is a pretty good comp for Brown; smallish, ball-dominant point guards who could really shoot it.  They are among the 12 players in ACC history with 2000 points and 500 assists.  Steals didn’t become a official stat until Brown’s sophomore year, which is too bad; otherwise he would probably be in the Top 10 all-time in that category as well.

Brown was at the center of one of the most controversial ACC Tournament games ever, the 1975 quarterfinal matchup with North Carolina in which the Tar Heels came from eight down with 44 seconds left to tie the game and send it to overtime, eventually winning 101-100.  A Phil Ford bucket, a steal, and a Mitch Kupchak layup cut the lead to four.  Then came the controversial moment.  Schellenberg inbounded the length of the floor to Brown, who was fouled; but referee Fred Hikel ruled that the inbounds pass had grazed the scoreboard overhead and gave the ball to Carolina, who scored to cut the lead to two.  The Tar Heels tied the game after Brown, an 84% career free throw shooter, missed the front end of a one-and-one, and they went on to win in overtime.

After the game, Brown and Schellenberg were adamant that the ball did not hit the scoreboard.  Dean Smith, being Dean Smith, said “I’m sure it hit or the official never would have called it.”  Can’t you just hear him saying that in that nasally voice he had?  Someone really should go through the thousands of newspaper articles and compile all the Dean-isms like that from over the years – the backhanded compliments, the subtle digs… it would be a great read.

The Tar Heels were living right that year; their semifinal game was another overtime win, this time over ClemsonTree Rollins had a short follow shot at the end of regulation that went down, around, and fell out, giving the Heels new life, which they took advantage of.  Carolina went on to topple David Thompson and NC State in the final and win the title.

69. Mike O’Koren, UNC, 1977-1980

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

Mike O’Koren and Mitch Kupchak are easily confused – similar first names, New York/New Jersey natives, 1970s UNC big guys who played with Phil Ford.  But their games were quite different.  Kupchak was more of a classic big man with higher rebounding totals; O’Koren had more of a midrange game and was an excellent passer, leading the Tar Heels in assists as a junior and senior.  O’Koren, Danny Ferry, and Gene Banks are the only ACC players with 1500 points, 800 rebounds, and 300 assists.

O’Koren’s freshman year was 1977, the year after Kupchak graduated and Phil Ford’s junior year.  After a late January slump, the Tar Heels caught fire, winning their last nine regular season games, winning the ACC Tournament, and advancing to the national championship game where they lost to Marquette.  O’Koren quickly established himself as a mainstay in the Tar Heels lineup, and his role increased when center Tommy LaGarde hurt his knee in early February.  O’Koren had 31 in the semifinal against UNLV.

As a sophomore, O’Koren was outstanding, averaging 17.3 points on 64% shooting.  But that team went out on a sour note, losing to Wake Forest in the ACC Tournament semifinal and then losing in the first round of the NCAA Tournament to the Bill Cartwright-led San Francisco Dons.

O’Koren’s scoring numbers dropped as a junior and a senior.  It’s hard to say why, but a good guess is that he wasn’t receiving passes from Phil Ford anymore, and the whole team seems to have gone to a slower tempo without Ford.  But O’Koren was still good; he barely missed first team All-ACC in 1979, finishing two points behind teammate Al Wood, and was back on first team as a senior.

O’Koren’s All-America record is interesting.  He was never named by the AP, but he was named a lot by the other services.  Here is a breakdown of the voting from the four services that were used to determine Consensus All-American:

YearAPUPINABCUSBWA
1978NothingNothing3rdNothing
1979Nothing2nd2nd2nd
1980Nothing2nd2nd2nd

There are a couple of storylines here.  One is, something was rotten in the state of Denmark with the AP voting from 1979 to 1983.  They drastically changed their voting methodology in 1979.  Prior to 1979, they polled a few hundred sportswriters.  In 1979, they reduced it to a panel of seven, who incidentally were from Dallas, Kansas City, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and three from New York.  And guess what?  Right away you see a discontinuity between the way ACC players fared in AP voting versus other services.  In addition to O’Koren, Mike Gminski, Albert King, Jim Spanarkel, and Sam Perkins did comparatively worse in AP voting.  In addition to the changes in voting membership, the AP voted by position for a few years, I think through 1981.  This also is a bad idea; it means that if the two best players in the country are both centers, one of them has to be on second team.  By 1984, the AP had gone to a 10-member panel and done away with position-based voting, and the ACC bias seems to disappear.  In 1989, they blew it up again, and went to the current system of polling 60-70 sportswriters who make out first/second/third team ballots, for which the AP assigns 5/3/1 points respectively.

In any case, despite the snubs by the AP, O’Koren was a consensus second team All-American twice.  However, the other storyline is, looking at his All-ACC voting for those same years, I have to regard those All-America selections with a bit of skepticism.  It seems clear that the ACC voters regarded him as a good player, but not as good as Gminski, Spanarkel, King, or even Hawkeye Whitney.  So I’m splitting the difference a bit in putting him in this slot.  He is ranked lower than any other two-time Consensus All-American, save Eric Montross.

As a postscript, it’s interesting to note that O’Koren, Gminski, King, and Buck Williams all wound up playing for the early-to-mid 1980s New Jersey Nets.  The Nets had two first round picks in 1980 and used them on Gminski and O’Koren.  They had two more in 1981 and used them on King and Williams.  I guess their GM had a thing for the ACC.

70. Trajan Langdon, Duke, 1995-1999

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

When I drafted my first list, I had Trajan Langdon in the Top 50.  But the more I reflect on his playing record, I think that’s too high.  What he has going for him is that he was first team All-ACC three times and was a solid second team All-American as a senior.  That’s impressive.  But I can’t escape the feeling that he was overrated.  He was a one-dimensional player.  He didn’t rebound, he didn’t create, he wasn’t a great passer, he wasn’t a great defender.  He had one job, and he did it really well, but I just don’t think that’s enough to make someone a Top 50 player.  Now you could argue that JJ Redick was a one-dimensional player too, and in a way he was, but a) he developed a floor/drive/penetrate game that was very effective, and b) he was better than Langdon at the one dimension.  Langdon made first team All-ACC in 1997 and 1998, but looking back, it’s hard to see how.  14 points per game for a one-dimensional player, that just doesn’t seem like enough.

You’ve heard of guys who “fill up the stat sheet”?  Langdon was the opposite of that.  Here’s a crude metric that supports what I am saying.  I looked at the total number of career rebounds + assists + steals + blocks for all 59 players in ACC history with 1900+ career points.  We’ll call this made-up stat RASB.  Langdon ranks dead last in RASB among this group, excepting a few pre-1980 players for whom we don’t have assist, steal, or block totals.

Langdon missed nearly all of the 1999 ACC Tournament after spraining his foot in the opening round.  Those missed games likely cost him a spot in the ACC 2,000 point club.  He finished his career with 1,974.

I’ve been running Langdon down, but he is on the list, so obviously he did something right.  For one thing, he’s one of the best three-point shooters in ACC history.  Sounds like a good topic for a list… who are the best 3-point shooters in ACC history?  Considering both accuracy and volume?  Here’s my (subjective) ranking:

RankPlayerTeamMinutes3P3P%Min/3P
1Dennis ScottGeorgia Tech36863510.45210.5
2Jack McClintonMiami30132860.44010.5
3JJ RedickDuke47324570.40610.4
4Trajan LangdonDuke39213420.42611.5
5Rodney MonroeNC State39893220.43612.4
6Anthony MorrowGeorgia Tech29062580.42111.3
7Kyle GuyVirginia30802540.42512.1
8Curtis StaplesVirginia40724130.3839.9
9Jason WilliamsDuke35723130.39311.4
10Randolph ChildressWake Forest39703290.39512.1

Honorable Mention: Scott Wood, NC State; Justin Gray, Wake Forest; Rashad McCants, UNC; Seth Curry, Duke

71. Mark Alarie, Duke, 1983-1986

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

There are nine pairs of teammates who came in together, finished together, and both of whom are reasonable candidates for the Top 100:

I’ll go ahead and tell you that not all 18 of these players made the Top 100, but they are all at least reasonable candidates.  I suppose you could throw in Stackhouse/Wallace, Monroe/Corchiani, and Jamison/Carter if you like; I didn’t, because Wallace, Corchiani, and Carter are not credible candidates for the Top 100 in my opinion.

Now, it seems like if you have two teammates among the Top 100 players in ACC history, and who played together for 3-4 years, that your team should accomplish something during that time, doesn’t it?  Let’s see what these teams accomplished.

TeamTeammatesOverall W-LACC W-LACC TitlesFinal FoursNat’l Champs
Duke 1983-1986Dawkins, Alarie95-3830-26110
Duke 2003-2006Redick, Williams116-2349-15310
Duke 2008-2011Singler, Smith125-2350-14311
Maryland 1972-1974McMillen, Elmore73-1724-12000
Maryland 1999-2002Dixon, Baxter110-3149-15021
UNC 1956-1958Brennan, Kearns69-1235-7111
UNC 1959-1961Larese, Moe57-1536-6000
NC State 1957-1959Pucillo, Richter55-2129-13100
South Carolina 1969-1971Roche, Owens69-1635-7100

Alarie and Dawkins started all 133 of those games.  I’ll talk about this more when we get to Dawkins, but unlike most of the other teammates on this list, they had to build from the ground up. Duke was 11-17 their freshman year, then 24-10, then 23-8, then 37-3 in that memorable 1986 year. Alarie was the Lonny Baxter to Dawkins’ Juan Dixon.  I just made that up, but the more I think about it, it’s a good comparison.  But I think Alarie was a little bit better than Lonny Baxter.  He is one of only 14 players in the 2000 points/800 rebounds club – all of whom are in the Top 100.

Alarie made first team All-ACC as a sophomore – over Dawkins.  But his numbers slipped a bit as a junior, and it’s not clear why; it was exactly the same team.  In any case, as a senior his numbers got back up to where they had been as a sophomore, and he was back on first team.  He snuck onto UPI third team All-American as well.

72. Tree Rollins, Clemson, 1974-1977

2003 Top 50 List: Yes

Dan Collins List: No

There were two players selected to the 2003 Top 50 list who never made first team All-ACC: Buck Williams and Tree Rollins.  Williams, in my opinion, is indefensible as a Top 50 choice.  Rollins has a better case.

While he didn’t make first team All-ACC, he came within a hair’s breadth, twice.  In 1975, he finished sixth in the voting, two points behind teammate Skip Wise.  Then in 1977, he finished sixth again, three points behind Walter Davis.  If you’re wondering about 1976, he was just as good that year, but Clemson had a somewhat disappointing year as a team, and Rollins suffered because of that.

Rollins did receive some national recognition as a third team AP All-American in 1977.  I think that validates that he was recognized as an outstanding player nationally.

Another thing I count in his favor is that his value was mostly on defense, and I always feel that defense-first players are undervalued in terms of accolades and recognition, because offense is easier to measure.  He’s the greatest shot-blocker in ACC history, still holding the ACC record for blocked shots per game at 4.1.  He had two career triple-doubles (points, rebounds, blocks).  He is fifth all time in career rebounds.  His NBA career, while it doesn’t directly factor into my evaluation, does provide further evidence that he was, in fact, a great defensive player.

We all know about Carolina beating Clemson in Chapel Hill a bajillion times in a row until the Tigers finally got them in 2020.  Rollins played a major part, and not in a good way, in one of the most gut-wrenching of those losses in 1975.  Clemson blew a 16-point lead to lose 74-72 in a game in which the Tigers went 14-for-32 from the free throw line.  Rollins was the worst offender, going 1-for-7 and missing two with 1:45 remaining and the Tigers up one.  Clemson did finally overcome the Tar Heels when they came to Littlejohn that year – their first win over UNC since 1967.

After the 1975 season, Clemson as a program looked to be on the verge of something special.  They finished 8-4 in the league, their best-ever conference record.  They were very young, with one sophomore (Rollins) and three freshmen (Skip Wise, Stan Rome, and Colon Abraham) among their leaders.  Wise was a sensation.

Then coach Tates Locke was forced to resign in the face of allegations of recruiting violations, and Wise turned pro.  The Tigers still had some talent, but without Wise, they took a step backward in 1976, finishing 5-7 in a tough ACC.  In 1977, Bill Foster did an admirable job of getting them back to 8-4 in the league, but their season ended with a loss to Virginia in the ACC Tournament semifinals.  They might have received an at large bid to the NCAA Tournament, but Locke’s shenanigans had left them on probation, so Rollins’ career was over.  We’ll never know, but you can’t help but wonder how things would have turned out for the program, and for Skip Wise, if he had stayed.

75/74/73. Lee Shaffer, North Carolina, 1958-1960; Pete Brennan, North Carolina, 1956-1958; Lou Pucillo, NC State, 1957-1959

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes (all 3)

[Pucillo] shows me something different every time I see him play. He’s always thinking one step ahead of everyone else on the court. – Everett Case, quoted in Legends of NC State Basketball by Tim Peeler

Pete Brennan, Lou Pucillo, and Lee Shaffer form a cluster of players who are very hard to distinguish.  You could throw John Richter and perhaps Tommy Kearns in there too, but I think Richter and Kearns are a notch below the other three.  Each was ACC Player of the Year, in 1958, 1959, and 1960 respectively.  Each received similar All-American support as a senior, making some second teams and some third teams.

Pucillo was one of the greatest little guys ever, standing at 5’9″. He was a brilliant ball handler and a bit of a hot dog who was the perfect quarterback for the up tempo style that Everett Case wanted to play. Pucillo hardly played high school basketball at all. His big break came playing for Temple Prep after high school, when Vic Bubas happened to see him playing against the Philadelphia School for the Blind (who presumably weren’t on the basketball team) and Deaf.

Brennan, of course, played a major role on North Carolina’s 1957 national championship team, but he wasn’t the best player, or probably even the second best; Rosenbluth and Kearns made first team All-ACC, while Brennan made second team.

I’m going to rank them Pucillo, Brennan, Shaffer.  I’m putting Pucillo at the head of the group for two reasons.  One, he was ACC Tournament MVP in 1959; two, he made first team All-ACC twice.  Brennan and Shaffer did not.  But they really could be listed in any order.  They are so close that I’m keeping them together in my rankings.

Did you know that Shaffer is the first ACC player who was an NBA All-Star?  Well OK, I’m cheating a little bit.  Gene Shue of Maryland is actually the first, but his last year in college was 1954, so he played only one year in the ACC.  After Shue, it was Lee Shaffer.  After Shaffer came Billy Cunningham, Jeff Mullins, and Jack Marin, and the spell was broken.  Mullins, drafted in 1964, was the first ACC player to have a really good NBA career, unless you count Shue.

It’s a curious phenomenon.  The ACC’s best players had zero success in the NBA prior to the mid-1960s.  Here are the NBA careers of the ACC’s best players and highest draft picks from its first ten seasons:

PlayerTeamPick #Draft YearYrsGPointsRebWin SharesAll-StarAll-NBA 
Gene ShueMaryland319541069910068285538.952 
Mel ThompsonNC State311954never played
Rudy D’EmilioDuke391954never played
Dickie HemricWake Forest12195521388637035.300 
Buzz WilkinsonVirginia201955never played
Ron ShavlikNC State41956281023-0.300 
Bob KesslerMaryland151956never played
Ronnie MayerDuke281956never played
Joe BelmontDuke401956never played
Vic MolodetNC State621956never played
Len RosenbluthUNC61957282342145-0.700 
Grady WallaceSouth Carolina401957never played
Pete BrennanUNC419581164031-0.100 
Joe QuiggUNC121958never played
John NacincikMaryland221958never played
Tommy KearnsUNC3019581120000 
John RichterNC State319591662853120.400 
Herb BuschMaryland381959never played
Lou PucilloNC State671959never played
Lee ShafferUNC519603196329112408.210 
Al BungeMaryland71960never played
Dave BuddWake Forest10196053532505162311.700 
York LareseUNC121961159302770.300 
Doug MoeUNC141961played in the ABA starting in 1967
Doug KistlerDuke2619611581000 
Len ChappellWake Forest519629591562131131910 
Art HeymanDuke1196331471519414400 
Jerry GreenspanMaryland251963225122830.400 
Larry BrownUNC561963played in the ABA starting in 1967

That’s pretty dismal, isn’t it?  You have one guy, Shue, who had a good career.  You have a couple of guys in Chappell and Dave Budd who had respectable careers.  Chappell, I think, dealt with some injuries that kept him from being as good as he might’ve been.  Shaffer was good for three years, then quit to go into business.  Heyman had a pretty good rookie season with the Knicks, then fell off and was out of the league in three years, although he came back to play some good basketball in the ABA.  Hemric was a role player for two years for the Red Auerbach Celtics teams and won an NBA championship in 1957, but it appears that he fell behind Tom Heinsohn in Auerbach’s pecking order, so he walked away.  And the rest of the players on this list had no career at all to speak of, including Shavlik, Wilkinson, Rosenbluth, Wallace, Brennan, and Pucillo.

Though this initially struck me as surprising, as I’ve thought about it more, it makes a little more sense.  First off, there were only eight teams in the NBA (nine with the addition of the Chicago team in 1962).  So there were very few spots to be had.  With 8 teams, you’re talking about only 40 starting positions, and maybe 60-70 positions with regular playing time.  It was really hard to make it.

Second, there were no teams in the south.  The league was northeastern (Boston, Philadelphia, Syracuse, New York), midwestern (Cincinnati, Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago), and western (Los Angeles).  And it wasn’t particularly lucrative.  Many players at that time were married, sometimes with a family.  So for a lot of them, it just wasn’t worth it.  It made more sense for them to get a job.

But there were other players from the South who made it.  Bob Pettit from LSU, Bailey Howell from Mississippi State, Hal Greer and Jerry West, if you count West Virginia as the South.  So it wasn’t impossible. 

This is one factor (among many) that leads me to conclude that the quality of play in the ACC wasn’t that great during this period.  The Big Ten, the Big Eight, the PAC-10 predecessors, the Missouri Valley, and arguably the SEC and Southwest Conference were playing better basketball, top to bottom, than the ACC.  I think this was true up until the mid-to-late 1960s.

76. Joseph Forte, North Carolina, 2000-2001

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

Joseph Forte is in the pantheon of great “two-and-done” players in ACC history, along with Joe Smith, Kenny Anderson, Elton Brand, Jerry Stackhouse, and Chris Paul.  Don’t let Forte’s lack of NBA success fool you into thinking he doesn’t belong with that group.  In 2000, he was ACC Rookie of the Year over Jason Williams and Steve Blake.  He then led a Tar Heels team that had a mediocre regular season to an unexpected Final Four run, and it was absolutely Forte who made the difference in the regionals, with 22 points in a Sweet 16 win over Tennessee and 28 in a 59-55 win over Tulsa to get to the Final Four.

Then, in his sophomore campaign (also Matt Doherty’s first year), all he did was tie Shane Battier for co-ACC Player of the Year and make first team All-American (along with Battier and Jason Williams) in leading that team to win the ACC regular season and finish sixth in the final AP poll.

It’s not quite up to the level of Smith, Anderson, or Brand, but it’s in the same range as Paul and Stackhouse, and in my view a bit better, because Forte did more as a freshman and just as much as a sophomore.

The 2001 UNC team is a fascinating one.  Now, with the benefit of hindsight, we know what was going to happen to Matt Doherty; but at the time, that was the farthest thing from anyone’s mind.  After a couple of early season losses, the Tar Heels reeled off 18 consecutive wins and stood at 21-2, 11-0 in the ACC and ranked #1 in the country when they took the court at Littlejohn Coliseum on February 18, 2001.  Clemson had lost eight consecutive games, most recently a 34-point drubbing at the hands of lowly NC State, and were on their way to a last place 2-14 ACC finish.  Who could have guessed that it would be that very day that Matt Doherty’s fortunes would turn, and from that day forward, Doherty’s ACC record would be 12-25?  It would have seemed impossible at the time.  But whatever mojo the 2001 team had, it was lost.  They stumbled a few more times down the stretch and were upset by Penn State in the second round of the NCAA Tournament.

… as much as the hurt he felt, Doherty struggled to deal with the mysterious nature of a season that has to be regarded as one of the absolute strangest in the program’s rich history.  In a matter of days, the Heels went from a No. 1 national ranking to a team that simply couldn’t quit shooting itself in the foot.  “I’ll never be able to figure it out,” junior Jason Capel said.  “We tried to put the pieces back together, but I don’t guess we ever did.” – Caulton Tudor, Raleigh News & Observer, March 19, 2001

Perhaps that run of initial success was the worst thing that could have happened to Doherty and the program.  Coming off a Final Four run under Bill Guthridge, it must have seemed to everyone that the program would just keep rolling.  It’s a good lesson to all of us that in sports, and in life, sustained excellence is never automatic.  There’s no such thing as greatness on autopilot.  It has to be earned, one day at a time.

77. J.R. Reid, North Carolina, 1987-1989

2003 Top 50 List: No

Dan Collins List: Yes

J.R. Reid is one of the first ACC players I really remember.  His freshman year was 1987, and I was 12 years old.  I’d like to say I remember players from the early and mid-1980s, but I really don’t.  If I look back at, say, 1986 – do I really remember Len Bias, Mark Price, Johnny Dawkins, and Brad Daugherty?  If I’m honest with myself, I have to say I don’t.  I have images of them in my head, but those images are from reading about them and hearing about them after their careers.  I can’t really call to mind specific plays or games, or how they moved around the court.

But I actually remember J.R. Reid.  He was, let’s face it, the enemy.  As a State fan, my period of maximum intense hatred of Carolina was probably 1987 – 1992 or so. Looking back on his career now, 30 years removed from the intensity of a teenager’s hatred of Carolina, I think that I, and perhaps history, judged him too harshly.  I had mentally put him in the category of a troublemaker and a bust.  But that’s not a fair characterization of his career. He burst onto the scene in 1987 as one of the nation’s top freshmen.  He ran away with ACC Rookie of the Year and missed by a hair (one point in the voting) making first team All-ACC.  That Carolina team was the best team in the country but ended up losing to NC State 68-67 in a classic ACC Tournament final, then lost in a regional final to a Syracuse team that featured Sherman Douglas, Derrick Coleman, and Rony Seikaly.  No shame there.

Then in 1988, Reid was even better.  He finished second to Danny Ferry in ACC POY balloting and was named first team All-American by the AP.  At the time, he was only the fourth sophomore in ACC history to make first team, and the first three were David Thompson, Ralph Sampson, and Michael Jordan.  So you can understand the hype.  The Tar Heels had a similar disappointing finish, losing again in the ACC Tournament final, this time to Duke, and losing again in the regional final, this time to Steve Kerr/Sean Elliott/Tom Tolbert Arizona.

So what happened to Reid in 1989?  He went from first team All-American to not even making second team All-ACC.  This is where, in my mind, I had him labeled as a player who regressed, probably got lazy, didn’t work hard.  But that’s not what happened at all.  Reid broke his foot playing for the Olympic team in Seoul and missed the first eight games of the season recovering.  When he came back, his playing time was somewhat limited for a while, and he didn’t start some games.  But when he played, he was just as good.  On a per minute basis, he was every bit as good in 1989.  He shot 61% from the floor and averaged 16 points per game in only 26 minutes per game.  The Tar Heels won the ACC Tournament and went on to lose to eventual champion Michigan in the Sweet 16, in a game where they got shot down by Glen Rice, like every other team did in that tournament.  In his last collegiate game, Reid had 26 points on 12-for-18 shooting.

It is strange that Dean Smith limited his minutes and sometimes didn’t start him.  I’m not sure what to make of that.  Perhaps he was a poor defensive player?

As far as being a troublemaker, there were a couple of incidents, but nothing egregious. Reid and Steve Bucknall were suspended for the opener in 1987-88 for getting into a bar fight. Then Reid was suspended for the second round of the NCAA Tournament in 1989 for missing curfew.  He turned pro after his junior year, but it was an amicable split, with Dean Smith, as he typically did, investigating Reid’s draft status and advising him.  He went on to have a serviceable NBA career, and is now on King Rice’s staff at Monmouth as an assistant coach.

So I’m revising my opinion of J.R. Reid.  As far as I can tell, he was an excellent player whose career accomplishments were curtailed by an injury and by his entirely reasonable decision to turn pro.

Reid was also at the center of an infamous controversy that started when some oh-so-clever Duke students decided to make a sign that said “J.R. Can’t Read”. It was mean-spirited, and anyone would have been miffed, but this was the kind of thing that really bothered Dean Smith because of the racist undertones, and he wouldn’t let it go. So he announced to the press that the combined SAT scores of Reid and Scott Williams were higher than the combined SAT scores of Danny Ferry and Christian Laettner. This was classic Dean – a 100% planned and calculated statement, defending his players, weaving in the social justice angle, getting in a dig at the opposing team’s stars, but maintaining deniability. He used combined SAT scores to defend himself from the accusation that he was exposing any single player’s score. Mike Krzyzewski, as you might expect, didn’t give a damn about that nuance, and the whole situation led to some bad blood between the coaches and the teams.

While looking at Reid’s career, I was struck by how tough the Tar Heels’ NCAA Tournament draws were during those years.  Specifically, from 1986-1990, it was brutal.  In all five of those years, the team that beat them went on to the Final Four; twice they lost to the eventual champion. 

1986: After being ranked #1 for most of the season, UNC stumbled at the end, losing four out of their last five, and was penalized with a #3 seed.  They lost to eventual champion Louisville (the Pervis Ellison year) in the Sweet 16.

1987: This was the aforementioned regional final loss to Sherman Douglas/Rony Seikaly/Derrick Coleman Syracuse.  The Orange lost to Indiana on the Keith Smart shot in the final.

1988: This was the aforementioned regional final loss to Steve Kerr/Sean Elliott/Tom Tolbert Arizona.  That team went 35-3.

1989: This was the Michigan game referred to earlier.  The Glen Rice/Rumeal Robinson team that won the national championship.

1990: This Carolina team wasn’t very good, but they upset #1 seed Oklahoma in the second round.  They were rewarded with a game against “40 Minutes of Hell” Arkansas, who went on to the Final Four.

The next year, in 1991, the Tar Heels finally got some luck.  In the regionals, they drew #12 seed Eastern Michigan and #10 seed Temple – and they made the Final Four.  Sometimes it’s not how you play, it’s who you play.